Comment Gone Lengthy – CGL VII
knicq posted in Comments Gone Lengthy on January 7th, 2006
This was originally a comment posted in response to my friend Sohail’s comment on the last post, but it got lengthy, and hence qualifies to be posted as CGL VII.
Thank you for sharing your point of view. Rest assured, I poked no needles into any voodoo doll in response to people’s comments on my blog, but if those people did have blogs, I have commented there…and that, as some will tell you, is not a wholly welcome eventuality. In your case, I shall wait for your blog to come up…
Now, allow me to begin with a little, but hugely pertinent, clarification. The conspiracy part was not meant literally. Having said that, while I agree with quite a bit of what you have to say, I have my own take on some aspects of your viewpoint.
I am surprised when you bracket culture of tolerance along with the American Culture. There are about a dozen countries around the world or what is left of those countries after American tolerance, Afghanistan and Iraq being only the recent additions to the list, which would take exception to those two terms being employed interchangeably. Tolerant America has invaded more countries in the last half century than any other country – the premise, surprisingly, has been one of the cousin buzzwords of tolerance. Democracy, for instance, has often surfaced as American premise to decimate non-democratic countries. Subsequently, however, if the ‘installation’ rather than ‘instillation’ of democracy did not bring ‘the right party’ to power, Americans and their western cronies have shown little tolerance for the democratic rights of the democratically elected reps in that area.
The unexpected wins of the Islamic parties in Turkey and Algeria, and more recently in Egypt and Iraq, have had the Americans stymied (Why are y’all electing these fundamentalist/extremist mullahs? Dontcha know its a democratic election? These guys ain’t democratic!), and often elicited unfriendly conduct from the western powers. So much for tolerance, and so much for democracy. Its the American definition or no definition.
I agree with your second point. However, there are the gossip pages and columns for people who read and enjoy gossip, must the newspapers now convert pages dedicated to real news to gossip pages also? You seem to have assumed my total aversion to any gossip news appearing anywhere, which while not entirely a fallacious assumption, is not the whole truth either. I am tolerant enough to allow a page somewhere inside the paper to the moronic readers and buyers of the papers too. My objection here is to the celebrity-gossip-overdose plaguing our publications. I do not want to read about a gay marriage, an adultrous relationship, or another adultery related newspeice on my front page, which should ideally be carrying news of the highest importance. A newspaper ought to be a newspaper after all.
I am not entirely taken with this if-there-is-enough-demand-there-will-be-a-product theory also. Real world economics is not an exact science, and its undoing is the variable called know-it-all human being. Case in point from the entertainment industry itself is the crap that lollywood churns out every year. If we were to go by the above theory, long long ago, Pakistani film industry would have mended its act…or are we to assume that when it comes to Pakistani cinema, our discerning public’s expectations just take a nose-dive. People continue to miss economic opportunities because their thinking is clouded by pre-conceived notions.
I really hate it when these self styled marketers imply that a majority of us are fools. You of all the people should know that Marketing has come a long way from the days of identifying a need, it has now moved onto creating a want, converting it into a deep craving rather than just a need, and making a sale.
I had made that conspiracy comment as a half jest, but its not entirely wrong. The American public for instance, unlike its government is quite fair and noble. They send their sons out to corners of the world to fight what they are told is a noble war. It takes courage and immense integrity in a nation to fight another’s war. The American people have often shown that courage and integrity. What they do not know is that they are often not fighting another’s war, they are not fighting their own war either. They are fighting the war of their political machine which of late has become quite explicit about its intentions of establishing a hegemony over the world. However, the fourth estate has converted the American public into a herd of sheep. They are led to believe what the American Government needs them to beleive to enable it to carry out its shameful agenda. They are given concocted stories, and when there are not enough concoctions they are fed this celebrity gossip round the clock to keep their mind off of news that holds real importance.
Newspapers here in the UAE print what their counterparts in the west print, not what majority of their readers would like to read. That is what is so pathetic about publications here. They do not have a mind of their own, nor news of their own.
As for those news of discrimination, they are not entirely baseless. The western media itself has documented a rise in anti-arab/anti-Muslim sentiment and incidents arising out of this rise. But that is a different discussion, and I am short on time.
Sum it all up, I am totally averse to celebrity gossip, or any gossip. I think it is an instance of creating a need in the first place. It also breeds the wrong kind of culture, which encourages people to snoop into other people’s lives. It was the drive to satisfy this created need that cost Diana and Dodi their lives. It is the kind of culture that makes the signing of confidentiality contract mandatory on the guests to a celebrity wedding. (See what I mean about nthese news being omnipresent!) It is the kind of behaviour espoused by no civilization, but increasingly being made a part of the modern civilization, just like nudity, homosexuality and other such vices. Celebrity gossip is nothing but eavesdropping and snooping, by the publishers as well as the readers of CG.
And just like Anjum said, who are these people who are labelled celebrities? I can understand sports celebrities, people who win sporting battles for their countries, but I would strongly object to any gossip about their private lives too. Irrespective of who the celebrities are, however, CG is a vice, and should not be encouraged.
There is news and there is gossip. News is good, gossip is bad.
Unfortunately, CG has become too well entrenched as a need now to be totally eradicated, and I can live with a gossip page in the newspaper…but please, spare me the ‘masala’ on the front page, and respect my right to go through my daily life without having to find out that Anglina Jolie has wrested Brad Pitt away from Jennifer Aniston!
January 7th, 2006 at 11:44 am
knicq, i think your response to sohail’s comment is plenty and thorough; i will only add a response to the comment about muslims being discriminated against in the US. first, it is hasty to assume that the discrimiation doesn’t exist based on the fact that he himself hasn’t experienced any. second, i wonder.. if one keeps the company of all/mostly other muslims/pakis, that might explain why one hasn’t experienced any discrimination. because if discrimination arises, it usually comes about when a minority is attempting to move into the majority world in some way. I don’t know if that’s teh case here, but having known the friendship habits of many indians and pakistanis studying/working in the USA, I would guess that might be an explanation. Can’t get stung if you never leave the house.. doesn’t mean you can say bees don’t exist.
January 7th, 2006 at 11:45 am
(correction: ..doesn’t mean you CAN’T say bees don’t exist.)
January 7th, 2006 at 11:46 am
(double correction: nevermind. original was right. i’m goin to bed.. it’s 3am here
)
January 7th, 2006 at 12:04 pm
A valid comment Anjum, and one that is borne out by the experience of many Muslim immigrants to Europe, for instance – in many cases, there is little discrimination on a daily basis, primarily because the Muslimsor or other poorer immigrants are concentrated in ghettos or slums where all the residents are from similarly disadvantaged backgrounds – in these scenarios, there is limited interaction with the wider society and hence one could argue, limited discrimination by the said wider society. Though even in such scenarios, when the immigrants/Muslims do interact with the wider society, it leads to friction and calls of bias – whether it is institutional racism in police, or clashes with far-right organisations in Oldham; whether its mayhem in Amsterdam or chaos in Paris – examples abound where apparently “happy” immigrant Muslim communities do deal with real discrimination and persecution in the allegedly “civilised” West.
I would also like to suggest another explanation to the one pointed out by Anjum – in some cases, a Muslim living in the West may not be discriminated against at all, since he may be a Muslim only in name. He/she may not have any visible manifestations of Islam, whether it is the beard or the Islamic dress such as the hijab and khimar. He/she maybe does not pray, or publicly follow any other precepts of Islam, whether it is enjoining good and forbidding evil, or speaking out against injustice and oppression, or calling to Allah. He may even have Anglicised or Westernised or Americanised his name, where Muhammad becomes Mo, Omar is known as Mario and Ali is your friendly Al.
I am sure such cases do exist, though of course are rare – when Muslims cease to be Muslims except in the most private spheres of their lives, and that too fitfully; where Islam is an archaic concept, at best an embarrassment to be endured; where the concept of the Ummah has been negated and forgotten, replaced by a love for “democracy”; and where condemnation of Interest and Riba has given way to a love of mammon.
So in these circumstances, I am sure the Muslim faces no discrimination whatsoever and is treated as an equal by all. Such Muslims may have all their friends and acquaintances from the non-Muslim or non-Pakistani community, and in fact, would probably want it that way, and still not face any problems whatsoever, of the kind experienced by practising Muslims. After all, once a Muslim is happy to celebrate Xmas, accompanies his Non-Muslims colleagues to the pub and follows their culture and way of life, then he will be treated as “one of us” by the majority culture.
Once a Muslim has sold-out his religion, his faith and his way of life, why should anyone have a problem with him or discriminate against him anyway?
January 9th, 2006 at 6:30 am
First again I would like to apologize if any one got offended. This is the blog spot of my dear friend for whom I have lot of respect and love. For me there is lot of stuff in his blogs that reminds me of good old days
I personally believe he is one of the most intelligent persons I ever had the privilege to know. I am sure one day we will work together to take over the cover pages of Forbes and Fortune magazines.
The only reason I am posting on this topic is because there are some assumptions made here about me which I would like to clarify.
I have good mix of friends from all ethnic and social backgrounds.
As far as people interaction is concerned I am in corporate management so I am never enclosed in my house during most of the evenings because either it’s a social meeting or contact building time.
Again I will not like to comment on other topic because it’s my friend’s blog and its should have just knicq flavor.
I never blogged, but I will create one now, because there are two countries which matter most to me USA and Pakistan and if some one falsely accuses any one of these I respond.
I just can not wait to see knicq comments on my first blog. I would love to see his remarks there. Because perhaps the only thing I can agree with him without arguing is that….., lol knicq this is tough one help me on this one
Knicq I hope I did not put anything offending here for you this time
The only reason I posted here is because of Anjum’s comments.
Hi Anjum:
Please visit USA and if you can find any discrimination against some one because that individual is Muslim, I would like to know, because in this great land of God – USA, if one discriminates there is not much chance that one can get away with his or her indiscretion.
January 9th, 2006 at 4:19 pm
Thank you all for sharing your views on the topic.
Sohail, I do not think there was anything offensive in your comments, and you need not worry about having offended anyone. We are all adults here, and can respect a difference of opinion. Most of us, however, will defend our point of view, or air our difference of opinion fiercely and quite often until the time we have convinced or until we have been convinced.
Our only pre-requisite is mutual respect, which given the current people involved in this discussion, does not need to be told. Oh, and thank you for those kind words. You flatter me. I think you are very wrong about me, but I choose to be especially tolerant in this case
Sister Anjum is a resident of the US, while brother Maranello has only recently moved out of the UK. Their perspective is based as much on personal experience as is yours. I am glad that you are in an area where your experiences have given you the kind of confidence you have about the US. It does not change the fact, however, that other Muslims have found the going tough for themselves in that same country, and elsewhere in the West, because of their personal beliefs and personal appearances (read Islamic apparances). Surely, the various reports emanating from the western media itself about the rise in Islamophobia are not wrong, even if our lying people returning from the US were all concocting baseless stories.
Muslims all over the west have been forced to adopt a defensive stance, even apologetic stance, for the actions of a handful, however, no-one sees christians/westerners taking that stance for their ‘liberation’ of Iraq and decimation of Afghanistan. Just how is Ossama Bin Laden’s bombing of Western targets to bring them on the path of Islam different from the West’s bombing of whole countries to instil their way of life in those countries – apart from the numbers killed of course? Why are the people sharing OBL’s faith all labelled intolerant, while people espousing these invasions continue to bask in their ‘glory of tolerance’?
If the west believes democracy is the panacea, Muslims know Islam is the panacea; but when Muslims are wrong in advocating their panacea through killing and terror, why is the west right in advocating its own panacea through those same means albiet on a much much larger scale?
Even I have met people here in the UAE, a potpouri once again of nationalities and cultures, who assume that a girl wearing a hijab has been forced in doing so by her ‘menfolk’ and a man sporting a beard is a fundamentalist in making. CNN had a report just the other day on the ‘plight’ of hijabis in Lebanon of all the places, and the general drift of the report was much the same; people are forced into hijab out of cultural obligation…IN LEBANON!!! Lebanon – the land of Nancy Ajrams and Haifa Wahbis, the ‘pop divas’ made famous by outfits originally made for the smallest babrie dolls…
The west approaches us Muslims with its own pre-convcieved notions about the rights of nudists, homosexuals and the like, is flabberghasted when it sees us approaching these people with our own pre-concieved notions, and very tolerantly labels us intolerant.
Why are we so comnfortable with this hypocracy, but quick to admonish the double standards in our own midst? (My discomfort is with the former rather than the latter attitude – for the record)
I must run along for now, but would like to thank Anjum and Maranello for insightful observations here, and would reiterate that all viewpoints are welcome on this blog…the only condition is mutual respect.
January 9th, 2006 at 4:23 pm
Oh, and Sohail, can’t wait for your blog to come up…I am already getting my arsenal ready!
We did agree on not agreeing ever…:)
January 10th, 2006 at 12:59 am
Sohail, my apologies if my comment offended you in any way; I did say that I didn’t know if you were or were not interacting with mixed cultures. Regardless, I was simply putting forth another viewpoint, which knicq bhai has clearly restated for me: that it is excellent if you have not experienced any discrimination, but that doesn’t mean that it doesn’t happen to other muslims in the same country.
I was born and raised in the US, am Muslim in name and behavior. I have had the strange & unique experience of interacting with the American world both with hijab and without (mostly without). and the fact of the matter is, I DID get more wary looks and puzzled caution when I was wearing hijab. I even got compliments on my excellent use of the English language! To which I duly responded that my English had better be good considering it is my first language – the shock on the offending faces makes my point for me, and supports Maranello’s comment as well.
I am really happy for you if you haven’t come across any discrimination. I realize that not all muslims do! but you can at least recognize that the stories don’t come out of nowhere.. that there Are muslims who are discriminated against, even if that does not include you.
January 10th, 2006 at 1:01 am
PS – knicq bhai, come read my travelogue – I went to California and met Yasmine!
January 10th, 2006 at 1:30 am
Guess what Anjum, I just got back from reading your travelogue, and commenting on one of your old posts from your favorites’ list….leave it for you to find out which one…and trying to comment, unsuccesfully, on Yasmine’s blog…and found your comments here upon my return…:)
I envy you now, and I envy Yasmine…two of my favorite people in blogistan meeting each other. I thought I was the one having all the blogistani fun meeting other bloggers….Oh well, we the UAE bloggers will be meeting over some GREAT food in a day’s time…read about it on your nearest UAE based blog soon!
January 10th, 2006 at 11:58 am
u know i dont read ur entries
but eid mubarak nonetheless
January 10th, 2006 at 5:45 pm
lol, knicq.. now i have to go on a scavenger hunt through that fave posts list to find your comment…
I got to meet Yasmine and her girls (sister & cousin), but you got to meet all the UAE bloggers! karrvakarela, waleed, abez, owl.. no fair!
if you see this before you go for the great food, give them all my salaams.
January 10th, 2006 at 5:45 pm
oh, and Eid mubarak!! (sorry for constantly commenting here..)
January 10th, 2006 at 6:20 pm
Eid Mubarak to you Anjum and to your family, and to every one in blogistan and their families. You know, you are welcome to comment here as much as you like. Actually, how about you guest-post in this place as well?.
KK is in Pakistan these days, but yes, I should be meeting Waleed, Abez, Owlie, and da Momma tomorrow. There’s Saadie in Al-Ain who I have yet to meet, and Saeed who has been promising he will move back here soon…
Perhaps, good old kvetcher will also move back into the UAE, and we will have a bigger circle of bloggers…
But the fact still remains that you were one of the first bloggers to visit my blog, and have a lovely blog of your own… and Yasmine and Felicity are the sort of writers I aspire to emulate… so you should see where my envy comes from
January 10th, 2006 at 9:38 pm
oh no sirree, ur not meeting pwlie, shes running away with me
January 10th, 2006 at 9:56 pm
Is she now…? Why don’t the two of you quit the running away, and join in the food festival?
January 11th, 2006 at 2:38 am
Insha Allah! & aap ke munh mein ghee shakkar!!!(lol-they say that on indian tv whenever someone says something good/something u wish for…)
i havent met any blogger yet either…
oh, u’ve been absolutely right abt celebrities…d 1 i hate most?Paris hilton-just who made her a celeb anyway??!!lol!
& Eid MUbarak to the knicq clan!
(PS-u just had to mention me to make me give up my blurkiness & comment,huh?!lol)
January 11th, 2006 at 2:48 am
….the ghee shakkar is an urdu mohavra bro…so its well understood.
Oh…that Paris Hilton!!! She’s the worst of the lot!
Thanks for thw wishes…Eid Mubarak to you and your family…and thanks for the compliment…I know I am smart that way…:)
January 11th, 2006 at 2:55 am
hah! I found your comment!
Glad you found it interesting. I never thought my life or family was that interesting, but it must be at least slightly interesting if ppl keep coming back to read my blog… *shrug* =)
January 11th, 2006 at 5:00 am
Eid Mubarak, knicq! man, the comments are even longer than the post and the post is ENORMOUS! someone give me the cliff notes version?
January 11th, 2006 at 11:44 am
half burnt half raw meat isnt our kinda thing.
magar agar bhook lagi to tapak parhain gay
January 12th, 2006 at 12:32 am
Anjum: Its a good thing you found that comment. Perhaps, I should start playing this game with everyone…go to one of their old blogs, and comment and ask them to find out. All those people with commenting systems should be easy prey
Baji: Khair Mubarak…eid mubarak to you and yours too. I am on a short vacation, local leave as they call it in my office; which means I am not going out of town like everyone else who takes a vacation. Until the Indo-Pak matches start, I have all the time in the world, and I can comment or blog without having to worry about the time…hence the long comments
In short, we got loads of gossip in the UAE papers, and we think the west is unfair and the westerners discriminate against Muslims. My friend Sohail disagrees.
Baptized Luce: I guess, bhook did lagee…:)
January 12th, 2006 at 3:27 pm
haha bhook nahin lagi thi, mona ditched me and owl. so we changed plans
aur aap log to baat hi na karo na. had inot asked owl who is who, id never have had the darnest idea.
January 12th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
LOL! I am sorry about that part. JB ditched just the way Mona ditched youz guys, and I thought mine would not be a complete introduction wihout him around
p.s. Your ringing phone disrupted formal introductions!
p.p.s Why the long face at changed plans…I would have thought the outing turned out quite well despite JB’s absence.
January 12th, 2006 at 4:21 pm
p.p.p.s …or perhaps because of his absence!
January 12th, 2006 at 6:53 pm
Come on knicq. Post a new one.
January 12th, 2006 at 9:11 pm
bahanaaaaaay. introductions ghar jaatay waqt nahin hoti btw. hmmph. i bet u were scared id diss ur posts… which i dont read!
mona’s stood us up thrice now. she’s way too happily married for us to be happy lol.
hey i had a nice time, mostly after the bbq tht is, at owlie’s place.
the nick JB sounds a bit scary… like those babas scaring away bhoots… JhaluntarBaba? heh!
January 13th, 2006 at 4:07 am
Hmmm…you know what B/L, we should hold Owlie responsible for the belated introductions…As for dissing my posts that you don’t read, you remind me of something Yousufi had said somewhere…the purest and most original critique on a work can come only from someone who has not read that work…not that I call my posts work; unless, of course, I look at them fom the readers’ point of view…so, come to think of it, I must have been afraid of getting some purest feedback from you too…!
The nick JB, by the way, stands for Jalali Baba…which is way scarier than Jalunthar Baba…JB does more than just scare away bhoots, he scares away all logic from the task that is life.
You are welcome to visit our place, we’ll ensure we have proper introductions, and make it fun too. For clarity’s sake, we’ll let TNQ do introductions…he has this habit of repeating everything until it is well-ingrined in the sub-concious, as well as unconcious.
Sohail, one fresh post coming right up!
January 18th, 2006 at 11:04 am
knicq bhai, im saying this in the most sincere and disrespectful way…
for the longest time, i was under the impression that JB was a figment of your imagination. *cringe*
that said, i still havent been able to figure out who/what/how/when/where this character is, who figures so prominently in your blogs…!?!
January 18th, 2006 at 1:22 pm
Asak…. Ahan! so here you are!:)
January 19th, 2006 at 2:12 am
Aysh: Yippeeee!!! You are back! Congratulations once again. So, are you in KSA yet? Are you ever visiting UAE? You know you can’t pass by here without stopping by at ours, right?
Hemmie: You credit me with far too fertile an imagination sis. The eccentricities, paradoxes, ironies, flashes of brilliance, and oodles of narcissism that make JB are peculiar to him… I merely try to reflect some of his traits in my blogs, at times to vent my frustration at another one of his ‘peculiarities’, and at others to admit his superiority. As for an introduction, after almost a dozen posts, i think I am yet to get it right…if you have the time you are going to have to read the first three posts filed under the JB category to know the answers to all those Ws.
January 19th, 2006 at 4:48 pm
Knicq:
I am a figment of your imaginataion. COme to think of it, I am a figment of my own imagination.
Hemlock:
Lemme give you a brief intro. The character who figures so prominently in knicq’s blogs is as real as knicq. we met around 3 yrs ago and it was hate at first sight. As our individual idiosyncrasies complement each other, we became friends. We have the same family configuration (Wife + Son + Daughter) and we both love Yousfi.
We have a perfect hate-hate relationship. We both belive in Yousfi’s statement “Hum nay jis ko haqeer samjha, woh darja-e-kamal per pohonch gaya”. Therefore we try to hate each other as much as possible and show our disapproval for every thing the other does, as each of us sencierly want the other to reach darja-e-kamal.
January 19th, 2006 at 11:45 pm
Yep! Bhai I am in KSA. Been here for the past 4 months and was in Riyadh. Came to Jeddah last week for Hajj (Alhamdulillah, we performed Hajj)and have been here since then. Guess what we ACTUALLY planned a trip to UAE before we came here. Well…. Hajj is better na.:) Ofcourse…we’ll…HAVE to visit you (and bhabhi, and TNQ and ANQ
)…when we get to UAE …that is
InshAllah…some day… InshaAllah.
January 21st, 2006 at 1:42 am
JB: I choose to take the noble road. Your relationship with me might of hate, but mine with you is of absolute disdain, and complete dissent. And, I think you spelled idiocities wrong there…if there is a word such as idiocity that is.
Aysh: Alf alf mabrook sis. May Allah (SWT) accept your offering, and may He fill your lives with Love, happiness, peace, and contentment. Ameen.
Hajj is definitely better, but a trip to our place should be the next thing on your itinerary – even if it is a very distant second.
It still has to be the second thing on that list…when is the trip to the UAE planned for Insha Allah?
January 21st, 2006 at 8:14 am
Dear Knicq:
Feeling a bit narcissistic, aren’t we? Why do you feel that what you don’t know dosent exist?
id·i·o·syn·cra·sy
n. pl. id·i·o·syn·cra·sies
1. A structural or behavioral characteristic peculiar to an individual or group.
2. A physiological or temperamental peculiarity.
idi·o·syn·cratic adj.
idi·o·syn·crati·cal·ly adv.
http://dictionary.reference.com/ might prove helpful.
My regards for hating me.
I am ready for my closeup Mr. Darja-e-Kamal.
January 21st, 2006 at 10:08 am
Oh, so there is actually a word like idiosyncracy, and you not only knew it, you looked it up for me…WOW!
In case, you need to look up the usage of the word, you might want to go through this humble blog too, I am sure you will find ample examples of the vried use it can be put to…
Might I repeat your question though, with a slight amendment…aren’t we feeling absolutely narcissistic this morning?
January 21st, 2006 at 10:22 am
ahhh… I love the smell of narcassisim in the morning. Smells like… perfection!
I dont classify our behaviour as idiociy. It is a permanent condition, hence it must be classisifed as idiosyncracy.
As for my narcassisim, when I look in the mirror, I say “I am better then you”.
My regards for hating me. Keep on hating me cuz I am better then you.
I am ready for my closeup Mr. Darja-e-Kamal.
January 21st, 2006 at 10:49 am
wow…seems like two people with a lot of time on their hands! Do both your wives know you are here?
PS: apologies for barging in on a private dialogue… though one may question whether there can be a ‘private conversation’ in such a public place. or maybe Knicq thought keh iss naqar khanay (aka the WWW) main tooti ki awaz koi nahi sunay ga, iss liye jo marzi kah lo…
Not that you are a tooti, whatever that is. Maybe JB can enlighten us…
January 21st, 2006 at 11:29 am
JB: By your own admission, your quwwat-e-sham’ma is a thing of past…what you think you smell is what you think you smell…what you think is narcissism is nicotine, but then nicotine is what perfection is, isn’t it?
My regards for recognizing my idiocy, and branding it an idiosyncracy…man is known by the company he keeps…
As for your conversation with the man you see in the mirror, trust me most people share your feelings when they meet the man you see in the mirror…and they are not entirely wrong about that declaration. You, however, need to stop and realize that the man you see in the mirror is actually you, you look quite different from what you think you still look like.
I had given you the benefit of doubt when you had first egged me on to keep hating you…I realize now that your narcissism has blinded you to the facts even when I present them to you in black and white…allow me to copy paste my clarification…”Your relationship with me might be of hate, but mine with you is of absolute disdain, and complete dissent”. I do not hate you JB. My hate deserves better. I have, however, admitted your supremacy…that means I did admit you are better than me…at narcissism.
Oh, and you THINK you are ready for your close-up…even your narcissism could fail when you do get that close up.
Thank you for the laqab though…its nice.
Maranello: I am on vacation these days. JB is always on vacation. Yes, our wives know we are here, and are thankful for it.
This is not a private dialogue, though you can be forgiven for mistaking it to be one. I do think ke is naqqar khaney main tooti kee awaz koi nahin sunay ga, jabje JB thinks ke yeh sub gorakh dhanda unhi kee awaz sunai janey ke liyey rachaya gaya hai…
JB knows best about tootis…I am sure. He knows best about all things inconsequential.
January 21st, 2006 at 11:46 am
Maranello:
You ar eright… Knicq is a Tooti errr Toota… appnay monh mian mitthu wala.
January 21st, 2006 at 1:35 pm
JB, I am but a humble disciple…inconsequential like I said.
To the discerning reader (if there is another), I present the above comments, and leave it for him to decide who’s the tootier of us…:)
January 21st, 2006 at 2:50 pm
Knicq, I am not a toota… cuz I know I am amazing.
January 21st, 2006 at 3:16 pm
Rest my case.
October 30th, 2006 at 12:04 am
[...] Since JB brain is perpetually abuzz with activity, these lines find themselves in a sort of cocktail party where the luminaries amongst them are invited to mingle, and add value to each other through sharing and mutual learning. Jb leaves those rehashed and restyled derogatory comments on my blog, and garnishes them with his very own unique brand of knicq-bashing, just so he can feel better about himself. JB looks in the mirror, and tells the guy he sees in it that he is better than him. (See comment 37) [...]